Posts Tagged ‘James Rauch’

PODCAST:

S4E7B – Metropolis (book)*

SHOW NOTES:

Wherein we dissect the hybrid tie-in book “Metropolis,” made in conjunction and simultaneous creation with its filmatic counterpart. This episode was recorded on the edges of agriculture and industry with a warming heart-fire of human ingenuity crackling in the background for added ambiance. I am joined by former co-host and original founding member of NDIOS, James Rauch a/k/a Beam, as well as a new guest, amateur historian and genre fan, Richard Bacon.   

All three of us generally found this book to be a laborious read. Our discussion focused heavily on the plethora of different story themes the author crammed into this relatively short work. Both Rich and Beam cited the historical context in which the work was created, however the class struggles inherent in the book that might have been exemplary of the author’s contemporary time seemed to be too buried to provide much insight. Rich ultimately felt that a revenge plot ran strongest through the book, which was the only thing he could grab onto solidly. Ryan saw familial relationships and conflicts put up against the artifice of machine as the central conflict. Beam struggled to finish the book and just didn’t like it, but thought it had cultural importance and influence. 

The episode runs longer than usual, but this otherwise difficult book provided great fodder for debate and discussion. Enjoy the ambiance of the bonfire and grumblings of civilization purring in the distance as my comrades and I imbibe spirits and pontificate on the ambitious meanderings of this lesser known twin origin piece for one of science fiction’s earliest efforts on the screen.

-Ryan

 

WRITTEN BOOK REVIEWS:

“Metropolis (1925)” by Thea von Harbou (book)

Ryan: 3 Stars “…A romanticized class struggle colored by religious and occult mythology with implacable villains full of old world venom and heroes in glorious melodrama – all set in the vast mechanized metropolis, a city dug as deep in the ground as it towers in the skies…

Beam: 2 Stars “…Melodrama…it was a very over dramatic almost theatrical book in a lot of ways…the style of the writing, the verbosity of it was almost intimidating to me…I didn’t really enjoy reading it…

Rich: 1 1/2 Stars “…Rotwang wants vengeance on the two men who stole the love of his life. One stole her heart. The other stole her life…

(Click the links to read full written reviews on Goodreads.com)

 

FUN FACTOIDS:

Rich felt that one of the author’s strengths was her ability to invoke images in the mind with her writing. Strangely enough this reminded him of well known comic writer, Mike Mignola, who’s eponymous character, Hellboy, is also set in a similar era as this work. Rich vehemently recommended that any and all check out this comic author’s work.

Though not acknowledged during the recording, Rich also managed to slip various references from the Simpsons into the episode. Here is Homer’s Simpson’s famous Bee Monologue from Season 6, Episode 2 “Lisa’s Rival, ” part of which got snuck in at some point: https://youtu.be/97M1X13XvOk.

During the episode we mentioned that the marriage of Thea von Harbou began and ended with affairs. Unfortunately, the director’s first wife caught the author and him in the act and took her own life as a result.–or did she? A website exploring “The Mysterious Death of Lisa Rosenthal,” which Ryan mentioned during the podcast can be found here: http://www.williamahearn.com/lisa.html. This same website contains the reference Ryan also mentioned about Thea having confusing decorating tastes hanging on her wall at home at the time of her death with alleged depictions of both Ganhdi and Hitler: http://www.williamahearn.com/thea.html.

One of the various myth/occult references the author used in this narrative, the Seal of Solomon,  or the Star of David, or the Pentagram was brought up in our previous podcast reviews of the cult-based works: “The Devil Rides Out (Black Magic #1) (1934)” by Dennis Wheatley (book) and “The Devil Rides Out (1968)” by Terence Fisher (Christopher Lee) (film).

Lastly, Ryan also cited a eview of this work from a Marxist perspective. That video “Metropolis – Marxist Theory”  by Renegade Cut can be found here: https://youtu.be/DJjbfaEtPN0.

 

 

* DISCLAIMER: Please be advised that the views and opinions of the hosts and guests of NDIOS are completely their own and do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of the other hosts and guests or that of NDIOS.

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PODCAST:

S4E7P – Preview Episode (Metropolis)

SUBJECT MATTER:

“Metropolis (1925)” by Thea von Harbou (book)

Metropolis is a 1925 novel by the German writer Thea von Harbou. The story is set in 2026 in a technologically advanced city, which is sustained by the existence of an underground society of labourers. The son of one of the city’s founders falls in love with a girl from the underground society as the two societies begin to clash due to the lack of a unifying force. The novel was the basis for Fritz Lang’s 1927 film Metropolis. (from Wikipedia.com)

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“Metropolis (1927)” by Fritz Lang (Alfred Abel) (silent film)

“The most influential of all silent films, this astounding new version of Fritz Lang’s visionary masterpiece includes 25 minutes of newly-discovered, digitally restored footage and Gottfried Huppertz’s magnificent original score – the closest version ever seen since the film’s 1927 Berlin premiere. METROPOLIS takes place in 2026, when the populace is divided between workers who must live in the dark underground and the rich who enjoy a futuristic city of splendor. The tense balance of these two societies is realized through images that are among the most famous of the 20th century, many of which presage such sci-fi landmarks as 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY and BLADE RUNNER. Lavish and spectacular, with elaborate sets and modern science fiction style, Metropolis stands today as the crowning achievement of the German silent cinema.” (from Amazon.com)

 

 

* DISCLAIMER: Please be advised that the views and opinions of the hosts and guests of NDIOS are completely their own and do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of the other hosts and guests or that of NDIOS.

PODCAST:

S3E8M – Hellraiser (movie)*

SHOW NOTES:

Four men and one brave women gathered to discuss the film “Hellraiser” (and possibly play Hungry Hungry Hippos). In a freakish act of pleasantness everyone more or less agreed that the movie was enjoyable and worth watching.

The group discussed how the major flaw with the movie was that it did not explain the motivations of the central characters. However, it did bring forth vivid imagery that created one of the most everlasting horror icons, “Pinhead.” Overall, the differences, strengths and weaknesses of the movie compared to the book were discussed. Of particular interest was the production and effects of the movie, which the entire group found worthy of admiration.

While there was some trademark filibustering and ignoring the discussion remained oddly civil. We look forward to seeing you next time, in whatever dimension you summon us to. So remember, when you open your puzzle box, sprinkle some baby powder over it—because there is no deodorant in outer space (and there is even less in Hell)!

-Wilk

WRITTEN FILM REVIEWS:

Movie: “Hellraiser (1987)” by Clive Barker (Ashley Laurence)

Ryan: 4 Stars “…I don’t think it’s perfect, but I do think it’s better than the book…”

Wilk:  4 1/2 Stars “…it’s not Jaws, but its a very good movie…”

Rick: 5 Stars “…just because it’s one of a kind and nothing like this has ever been done before in the history of movie making…”

Laura (guest): 4 3/4 Stars “…it could have been better, but at the same time it’s just such a classic it’s hard to not give it 5 stars…”

Beam (guest): 5 Stars “…I f***ing love Clive Barker, I always have…”

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FUN FACTOIDS:

cenobites

The hosts on this episode metioned an old interview with Clive Barker from 1987 which took place after the Hungerford Massacre in the UK. During this TV program called “Open to Question,” the author is put to questions by college kids grilling him about violence in horror films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOqaKgrbjfQ.

The real stars of this film were the Cenobites. We discussed this gruesome group to great length during the episode and even mentioned that one the monsters has a freeze framer error where wheels can be seen during the video. This website article by Jack Incongruente has the pictures and animated gifs of that error here: http://www.jackincongruente.com/en/23-fun-facts-about-hellraiser-1987-movie/.

We also discussed the book art that Clive Barker painted to go with the standalone version of this novella. The artwork can be viewed two ways:

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* DISCLAIMER: Please be advised that the views and opinions of the hosts and guests of NDIOS are completely their own and do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of the other hosts and guests or that of NDIOS.

PODCAST:

S3E8B – The Hellbound Heart (book)*

SHOW NOTES:

Prior to this recording, Ryan, Beam, and I danced and frolicked in a pentagram of fire deep in the Illinois woods with aching hopes to summon the Cenobite priests from the netherworld.

Ryan, Beam, Wilk & Rick

With eyes rolled back, Ryan drooled on our sacrifice as he mumbled sacred text from ancient alien scripts. At the conclusion of Ryan’s prayer, Beam pulled a lever actuating tension to the hooks surgically fastened deep within the creature.

Laura & Wilk

The moment the animal was devoured, we felt the presence of Wilk and Laura and commenced to record a podcast about Clive Barker’s “Hellbound Heart” that transformed and enhanced our Earthly senses and perspectives.

-Rick

WRITTEN BOOK REVIEWS:

Book: “The Hellbound Heart (1986)” by Clive Barker

Ryan: 3 1/2 Stars “… A carnal visage of thrill-based plotting that is both fast and to the point…that being the tip of a meat hook…

Wilk:  4 Stars “…There is really no reason not to read this book. It’s very accessible, it’s a quick read, and it’s overall enjoyable…

Rick: 2 Stars “…Not a real horror tale because it is corrupted with righteous vindictive retribution…

Laura (guest): 4 Stars “…The characters…they don’t go into a lot of detail, but it’s scary, it’s haunting, it gives me the heebie jeebies…”

Beam (guest): 4 Stars “…I think he was still learning how to write at that time and he kept it really short, but there is a lot of depth there…

(Click the links to read full written reviews on Goodreads.com)

FUN FACTOIDS:

abaratOn the show Rick talked about Clive Barker’s brief foray into the world of Disney. The two entered into an option agreement for a young adult fantasy series titled “Abarat.” Check out this article by Witney Seibold, “Clive Barker’s ABARAT: The Epic Disney Movie that Never Was” found here: http://www.blumhouse.com/2016/01/07/clive-barkers-abarat-the-epic-disney-movie-that-never-was/. We also mentioned a recent podcast interview with Clive Barker where he discussed going into a coma after contracting Toxic Shock Syndrome. That interview was conducted by Chris Hardwick for the Nerdist Podcast and can be found here: http://nerdist.com/nerdist-podcast-clive-barker/. Another great recent podcast interview with the author was conducted by David Barr Kirtley for Geek’s Guide to the Galaxy here: https://geeksguideshow.com/2015/05/10/ggg151-clive-barker/.

leo-valentinClive Barker cites the death of famous skydiver, Leo Valentin, as having an affect on his life. Valentin was a modern “birdman” who fashioned wings for himself in an effort to create human flight, which ultimately ended in his own demise. Barker has stated that when he was very young he watched the performance which led to Valentin’s death. Later in Barker’s life, Valentin inspired some of the author’s stories.

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The infamous stars of this book (and later the movie “Hellraiser”) might be the actual villains, the Cenobites. Much discussion was had on this episode about the motivations of these other-worldly beings and their motivations. The hosts and guests compared the seemingly savage disinterest of these unique baddies to that of wild animals (sharks and bears). During the podcast Ryan recalled an interview of director Werner Herzog who discussed the bears that were the real-life subjects of his documentary film “The Grizzly Man“. That interview was by Marc Maron for his podcast WTF:  http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-733-werner-herzog-godfrey.

Lastly, Wilk mentioned Clive Barker answered questions on Goodreads.com (like the scariest book he ever read) which can be found here: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/10366.Clive_Barker?from_search=true.

 

* DISCLAIMER: Please be advised that the views and opinions of the hosts and guests of NDIOS are completely their own and do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of the other hosts and guests or that of NDIOS.

PODCAST:

Listen to the podcast here (click to play/right click and select “save target as” to download):

S1E3 – The Running Man (book & movie) *

WRITTEN BOOK REVIEWS:

Ryan: 3 Stars “I would definitely recommend this story for those who don’t know King outside horror…

Wilk: 5 Stars “If you do not like this book you should start scrap booking or join a bowling league…

Beam: 5 Stars “(no written review)

Rick (guest): 4 Stars “Irony is thicker than his moussed hair as RD’s weasel character is a mirror to his real tv persona…

(Click the links to read full written reviews on Goodreads.com)

SUBJECT MATTER:

"The Running Man" By: Stephen King

“The Running Man” By: Stephen King


Book: “The Running Man” by Stephen King

In the year 2025, the best men don’t run for President, they run for their lives….

Ben Richards is out of work and out of luck. His eighteen-month-old daughter is sick, and neither Ben nor his wife can afford to take her to a doctor. For a man with no cash and no hope from the poor side of town, there’s only one thing to do: become a contestant on one of the Network’s Games, shows where you can win more money than you’ve ever dreamed of—or die trying. Now, Ben’s going prime-time on the Network’s highest-rated viewer participation show. And he’s about to become prey for the masses….

With an introduction by the author, “The Importance of Being Bachman”” (from Amazon.com)

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“The Running Man” By: Paul Michael Glaser

Movie: “The Running Man” by Paul Michael Glaser (Arnold Schwarzenegger)

“A wrongly-convicted man must try to survive a public execution gauntlet staged as a TV game show.” (from Amazon.com)

WILK’S SHOW NOTES:

The third episode of NDIOS involved a discussion of Stephen King’s “The Running Man” as well as a series of inside jokes, derision, and shared contempt.

For no reason whatsoever there was a guest panelist, Richard (Rick) Mehl. He added an interesting dynamic to the show in that he was not Ryan, Wilk, or Beam, and he too had opinions as well as insulting comments to make.

Overall the show focused on the book by King. The book is completely different then the movie and the panelists went over the plot at length. Their discussions ultimately lead to post show discussions about how they need to better organize the podcast. To date nothing has changed and the podcast planning and editing seem to take an inordinate amount of time out of the lives of the hosts. It is presumed that the people listening and reading this do not care. Perhaps the idea that this is causing a large toll on both our personal and professional lives  will enhance our fans enjoyment of the show (This show literally ended with a bloody nose – click for photo). We can only hope.

Ryan made a point to stay focused by ignoring whatever Wilk said if he thought it was off topic. This only aggravated Wilk, who later wrote about the experience in a third person format. As a result, there were a lot of obscene words and tangents worked into the broadcast. At one point the discussion drifted to Stephen King’s book on writing (On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft) and it was all Wilk could do to not punch Ryan in the mouth. There is nothing worse than hearing an aspiring writer talk about writing, except to listen to them talk about Stephen King’s book on writing. Sadly, that moment did happen in this podcast.

Overall, all the panelists liked the book. Wilk gave it five stars, saying that it was a “punk rock” literary masterpiece. On the other end of the spectrum Ryan said it was “very good” but it was easy to tell it was written in a rush. Jim and Rick seemed to agree with both of these points of view.

The movie “The Running Man” was met with poor reviews by everyone but Wilk. This was surprising to Wilk, who considers this a classic “Arnold” movie. But, according to guest host Rick, even “Arnold” was upset with the film. A broader discussion of what movies they all liked starring Arnold Schwarzenegger was entered into briefly.

Overall tempers flared at key moments and the podcast was cut mercifully short at 45 minutes so Wilk could go watch Game of Thrones. Until next time, spray some deodorant in your boxers because there is no deodorant in outer space!

 – Wilk

 

* DISCLAIMER: Please be advised that this episode of NDIOS contains a brief bio by Wilk of director Paul Michael Glaser, which was later confirmed to be complete fabrication (as Wilk is wont to do from time to time). Post show Wilk clarified that he was providing a “satire” of a biography, and after the credits Wilk does apologize to any listeners that may be confused. NDIOS wishes to express that the views and opinions of Wilk are completely his own and in no way reflect the views of the other cohosts and guests, nor did they express the views of NDIOS. Our sincerest apology for any confusion which Wilk’s absurdly false comments might have caused.

 

 

 

PODCAST:

Listen to the podcast here (click to play/right click and select “save target as” to download):

S1E2 – A Clockwork Orange (book & movie)

WRITTEN BOOK REVIEWS:

Ryan: 4 Stars “The paths of violence navigate through a forest of moral choices-what is the worth of the automatic man….”

Wilk: 4 Stars “Pretty good book. It’s nice to read something with an invented language that doesn’t involve elves…”

Beam: 3 Stars “This book sucks. I used to like it alot when I was young and stupid, because it was “ultra-violent” and all of that jazz…”

(Click the links to read full written reviews on Goodreads.com)

SUBJECT MATTER:

"A Clockwork Orange" By: Anthony Burgess

“A Clockwork Orange”
By: Anthony Burgess


Book: “A Clockwork Orange” by Anthony Burgess

“A vicious fifteen-year-old droog is the central character of this 1963 classic. In Anthony Burgess’s nightmare vision of the future, where the criminals take over after dark, the story is told by the central character, Alex, who talks in a brutal invented slang that brilliantly renders his and his friends’ social pathology. A Clockwork Orange is a frightening fable about good and evil, and the meaning of human freedom. When the state undertakes to reform Alex to “redeem” him, the novel asks, “At what cost?” This edition includes the controversial last chapter not published in the first edition and Burgess’s introduction “A Clockwork Orange Resucked.”” (from Amazon.com)

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A Clockwork Orange

“A Clockwork Orange”
By: Stanley Kubrick (Malcom McDowell)

Movie: “A Clockwork Orange” by Stanley Kubrick (Malcom McDowell)

“In a futuristic welfare state, Alex, a vicious young hoodlum, sleeps all day and spends his nights roaming the city with his droogs, assaulting innocent people in streets and in their homes.” (from Amazon.com)

WILK’S SHOW NOTES:

On the second podcast of No Deodorant in Outer Space there was a well-produced discussion of A Clockwork Orange. Somewhere. In Theory. In a multitude of Universes this must have taken place. However, on the one that you can listen to by clicking the link on this page, there is at the very least a cognate discussion of three bitter rivals speaking about a work of fiction that once again turned into a series of personal attacks that were likely edited out.

All three panelists enjoyed the book and the movie. It is important to note that the book that was read contained an additional chapter from the original version. It is also important to note that no one read the original version, or if they did, they just kept on reading the “new”  chapter after finishing the original publication.

The Author of the book was painted as a failed musician by Dave, who felt that the authors introduction to the book was a little self-serving. Ryan, a constant apologist for all things that may further his career (in this scenario perhaps he envisioned the estate of William Burgess approaching him and offering him a job), felt that the author was quite accomplished. However, Jim and Dave noted that he was really primarily known for this book-and Dave pointed out that he could be a “Harper Lee”- someone with one story to write and destined to be known for only that. It should also be noted that Dave’s irrational hatred of almost all things is Ryan’s fault; or alternatively Dave is just a curmudgeon that likes the smell of his own aggravation.

Despite these petty arguments, all parties agreed that the book was a worthy classic that had a deliberately contrived dialect that really took the reader into the realm created by the Author (click here to see the translation and comparison of the nadsat language to Russian as referenced in the show). The literary style was superb and made this medium a worthy venture for anyone to pursue. And by “venture” we mean “reading”. It has come to that. Reading is a venture. Aren’t you proud of yourself?

Jim made the point that he had read the book as a young man and now re-reading it he found that he had a different perspective-but never the less enjoyed the book. Jim stated that he was more in tune with the protagonist/main character when he was younger-but now he agreed with the other panelists in thinking that Alex was a horrifying human being. Dave pointed out that this was a “catcher in the rye” factor, and Jim agreed. Ryan was likely on Wikipedia learning about Catcher in the Rye while this discussion took place.

The discussion of the movie and it’s director, Stanley Kubrick, devolved into Dave desperately trying to point out facts that were not found in Wikipedia, while other contributors read aloud from Wikipedia in what was either an Andy Kaufman style piece of comedy or a shameless derivative of the lowest hanging piece of information about Kubrick. You be the judge (guilty)! The movie was well received and despite its controversial nature it actually presented a lesser amount of violence then the book and none of the pedophilia (no joke) of the main character. Ryan pointed out that Kubrick respected writers, which was immediately disputed by Dave. There was likely some scoffing as well.

So- to learn more about both works give our podcast a listen. And remember, pack some moist towelettes* because there is No Deodarant in Outer Space!

 * ”moist towelettes” is also the name of Dave’s band

– Wilk

PODCAST:

Listen to the podcast here (click to play/right click and select “save target as” to download):

  S1E1:- Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep / Bladerunner 

WRITTEN BOOK REVIEWS:

Ryan: 4 Stars “A mind-bending dystopian hero’s quest through the looking glass…

Wilk: 3 Stars “It was strictly alright. The end of the book seemed to get very ambitious and ambiguous at the same time- in the sense that the writer wrote himself into a corner…

Beam: 3 Stars “(no written review)”

(Click the links to read full written reviews on Goodreads.com)

SUBJECT MATTER:

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" By Phillip K. Dick

“Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep” By Phillip K. Dick

Book: “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep” by Philip K. Dick

“By 2021, the World War had killed millions, driving entire species into extinction and sending mankind off-planet. Those who remained coveted any living creature, and for people who couldn’t afford one, companies built incredibly realistic simulacrae: horses, birds, cats, sheep. . . They even built humans.

Emigrées to Mars received androids so sophisticated it was impossible to tell them from true men or women. Fearful of the havoc these artificial humans could wreak, the government banned them from Earth. But when androids didn’t want to be identified, they just blended in.

Rick Deckard was an officially sanctioned bounty hunter whose job was to find rogue androids, and to retire them. But cornered, androids tended to fight back, with deadly results.” (from Amazon.com)

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"Bladerunner" by Ridley Scott

“Bladerunner” by Ridley Scott

Movie: “Bladerunner” by Ridley Scott

“Visually spectacular, intensely action-packed and powerfully prophetic since its debut, Blade Runner returns in Ridley Scott’s definitive Final Cut, including extended scenes and never-before-seen special effects.

In a signature role as 21st-century detective Rick Deckard, Harrison Ford brings his masculine-yet-vulnerable presence to this stylish noir thriller. In a future of high-tech possibility soured by urban and social decay, Deckard hunts for fugitive, muderous replicants – and is drawn to a mystery woman whose secrets may undermine his soul.

This incredible 2-Disc Set features the definitive Final Cut of Ridley Scott’s legendary Sci-Fi classic and the in-depth feature length documentary “Dangerous Days” and features all new 5.1 Audio.” (from Amazon.com)

WILK’S SHOW NOTES:

The first episode of No Deodorant In Outer Space did not result in a physical injury for any of the participants.  This aspect exceeded the expectations of the group, some of whom are now speaking to each other.

Episode one of NDIOS consisted of a discussion of the Movie “Blade Runner” and the book it was loosely based on, “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?”. Despite violating several of Emily Post’s established rules of etiquette (Never answer a question with a question, or title a book with a question, or have intercourse with a robot) the novel was considered the superior medium by three of the four contributors. The Fourth contributor, a petulant toddler often heard in the background, insisted that the rubber ball covered in her saliva was far more noteworthy then either the book or the film. She has since left the group to pursue other interest; namely examining what exactly is in the vents near the window.

The panel felt that neither the book nor the movie were without flaws. The book itself was thought to contain a clunky reference to a “future” religion that felt tagged on, according to Dave and Jim. Ryan maintained that this religion was interesting and he “liked” it, despite Dave repeatedly telling Ryan that Ryan did not understand his own thoughts, emotions, or words and in fact did not like the book. This discussion went on for some time and was likely edited for content. Content is of courses code for “slurs and personal attacks against Ryan by Dave”.

In an effort to not redeem himself, Dave did a half ass job on researching the Director and provided a biography of CS Lewis instead. He continued to insist that Ridley Scott was friends with JR Tolkien and worked at Oxford before breaking into laughter. The audience learned little from this and it left Dave feeling broken and empty for the next few weeks.  The panel did conclude that the film moved very slowly and differed so significantly from the novel that it would be unfair to call it inconsistent. It was simply a different story with some parse elements from the book- and it ultimately did not entertain.

Jim researched the book and provided some interesting facts about the author’s insanity (click here to see the letters to the FBI referenced in the show).  Dick suffered from undiagnosed mental ailments that may have sifted into his work. It was unclear if these had any effect on the novel. The book itself was considered very engrossing by all three members and worth reading. Although they disagreed on how certain elements were introduced it was overall a very good read. The consensus was that the ending of the book is what prevents it from being a true classic novel (although Ryan disagreed).

The aftermath of the podcast consisted of a Sisyphean ordeal in terms of editing the audio and communicating with each other. Several friendships were severed while secret alliances remained strong and ready to strike. It is the hope of everyone at NDIOS that our future episodes will be more polished, like a rock thrown at people who insist that the earth revolves around the sun and shrimp are delicious. You don’t throw dirty rocks at those kinds of people. You throw your best polished rock. It just how it is done.

And remember…..There is no deodorant in outer space so you better shower before you get on the shuttle.

– Wilk